Spectrum of [NOT ALLOWED AT THANKSGIVING]

Original written Aug 9-14 2021

Part 1

[Preface: I ask many questions in here, this is for self inspection, or look at whom you surround yourself with. If you wish to play along, write down your first reaction]

Let me start with the most basic and easily understood here.

How many have looked at where we each stand social/politically. There are basically 4 sliding spectrums that we need to analyze in ourselves, one by one, separating out all 4 to get a good picture.

Taking everything else out, whom is Right-Wing, whom is Left-Wing. (I have had people try to associate this tied to another spectrum)

Lets look at the spectrum

FAR-Left…Left…Center-Left…Centrist…Center-Right…Right…FAR-Right

There are many research on political spectrum, but let me boil it down to its simplest-easy to understand:

Left puts people over profit

Right puts profit over people

The more people think about it, the more Left people say they are, this is the forcing of humanity and empathy.

If someone claims they are Right, they have a tendency to think people should get paid as little as possible to maximize profits. Benefits for people….ha ha ha, that would cut into profits.

If someone claims they are Left, they have a tendency to think people should be NOT be treated like a piece of replaceable fodder. Everyone should have benefits regardless of profits.

Big business has one goal in mind, Make profit. Naturally, this had the consequence of having buisnesses be Right-Wing.

Let’s look at US social/political;

I don’t care for Biden / Polosi, he is Center-Right, She is Right. ONLY if pushed he will work for the people, she doesn’t care for people, both are Right wing, this is a feature of the system, not a bug.

Trump / Cruz - Well they are naturally Right Wing, how far is debatable, but they does not care for anything if it interferes with any type of profit, to them, that is THE MOST important thing. If people suffer, they get to go to a vacation place.

DeSantis / Abbott - When given the choice on protecting human lives, or open up businesses early, Well….Profits over people…..

Most (not all) of US politics are Right wing - This is because of certain legislation, they give the most money, and politics only care about who gives them the most money. The few that are NOT right wing, they had/have a up-hill battle all the way and are demonized near constantly.

Put in anyone you want, and ask where they stand based on their history. To they value people or profit as more importance to them.

Put any law or public policy, is it Right-Wing, or Left-Wing….

Do you support People/Law/Policy that is Right-Wing, or Left-Wing…. AND WHY. Why do you support that way….

Words are one thing, Actions are another. Who and what you get your voice and vote behind is an action. If one claims with their words one thing, but based on their history of backing another, which is more important, ones words or ones actions…

Part 5

[Section 1 of 2]

I have held off, on stating on what I believe social/political, because so many have confused one spectrum with another, and I needed to go threw this long rambling to get to this statement

I am a Left-Wing Progressive Democrat Socialist

To break that down line by line

I think people should come before profit, people should not suffer so money can be made

Progress and change should be made based on the population as a whole. Most of humanity are good and have good intentions, that will shine.

Everyone should have a voice to express their interest

One should not rule over another because they are in a different class (Rich should not rule over the poor just because they have more money….etc…)

I have a bias opinion on socialism, so I saved it here.

America is a sudo-socialist country. There is social ownership of a lot around (everyone pays a little, but the benefit is for everybody).

Let me describe a few…..

If you wish to go from one end of a state to another (I live in Texas, that is a LONG way) without socialism, people would pay tolls at every little town. The road system is socialism, everyone pays a little, everyone benefits.

Our future is dependent on the next generation is MORE educated than the prior, without socialism, the wealthy would send THEIR kids to school, the not-so-well off won’t get education. (if you know a teacher, ask them to get paid ONLY by the parents they are teaching / Charter School) Education is socialist, everyone pays a little, everyone benefits.

If your house is on fire, without socialism, I hope you have have the fire insurance fully displayed in front of your house so that the appropriate fire department you paid will show up, if another one besides that shows up, they will break out the marshmallows (see fire brigades before the Great London Fire), Fire departments are socialist, everyone pays a little, everyone benefits.

If you are away from home, and your car gets broken into, without socialism, well you didn’t pay that areas law enforcement, that is going to be couple thousand dollar out of network deductible for them to start looking into it, Law enforcement is socialist, everyone pays a little, everyone benefits.

If you don’t care for socialism, well how many socialist programs are people wanting to take away ? How many are willing to give them away ?

If you hear that a program is ‘socialist’, what is the counter argument against it?

[Section 2 of 2]

Now that this is all in front of whomever wishes to get this far:

For Non-Christian whom do you look up to, and what EVIDENCE of it can be presented where are they on these spectrums?

For Christians, what EVIDENCE can be presented on where Jesus is on these spectrums?

Are you molding your ideals based on these people whom we are supposed to be looking up to?

For the Christians’, some tend to identify with Jesus heart for righteousness, Some tend to identify with Jesus heart for justice. Both will have differing views on where to place Jesus on these spectrums. Both are right in their own perspective and can cite different evidence. Just because someone has a different view than you, don’t be a bully (someone who tries to knock others down to elevate themselves). Accept them as having a different set of evidence they believe to be true.

Part 4

Review:

FAR-Left…..Left…..Center-Left…..Centrist…..Center-Right…..Right…..FAR-Right

Left- People more important than Profit

Right - Profit more important than People

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Progressivism…Liberalism…NeoLiberalism…Conservatism…Authoritarianism

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+Progressivism - an idea to progress and change/adapt to what the MAJORITY of the population wants.

++Liberalism - emphasized the right of the individual to make decisions, even if the results dismayed their neighbors or injured themselves.

+++NeoLiberalism - a society that emphasize market relations, re-tasking the role of the state, and individual responsibility, The main force is competitive markets into all areas of life, including the economy, politics and society.

++++Conservatism - adverse to change or innovation and holding traditional values, favoring free enterprise, private ownership, and socially traditional ideas

+++++Authoritarianism - the enforcement or advocacy of strict obedience to authority at the expense of personal freedom.

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Anarchism…Democracy…Republic…Monarchism…Oligarchy…Totalitarian

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+Anarchism - No government

++Democracy - Everyone has a voice, everyone has 1 vote.

+++Republic - Everyone has a representative, and those representative should be speaking for their representative peoples intersts

++++Monarchism - Power is concentrated into the hands of one, possibly delighted, and that single serve everyones interests.

+++++Oligarchy - Power is concentrated into the hands of a few, they do whatever they want, they don’t represent anyone other them selves.

++++++Totalitarian - Power is concentrated into the hands of one, they serve them selves.

Now to enter the meat of everything, what type of social/political group. I have had many conversations with people, they say they don’t like something because of XYZ, what they are describing is something previous. (Mainly Authoritarianism and Tootalitarian)

Everyone has their notions on what they think something is, but break it down and look at it as a separate spectrum.

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Communism…Socialism…Democrat….Corporatist….Republican…. Fascist

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+Communism - a philosophical, social, political, and economic ideology and movement whose ultimate goal is the establishment of a communist society, namely a socioeconomic order structured upon the ideas of common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social classes, money, and the state

++Socialism - a political, social and economic philosophy encompassing a range of economic and social systems characterized by social ownership of the means of production, and democratic control, such as workers' self-management of enterprises.

+++Democrat - a form of government in which the people have the authority to choose their governing officials or to deliberate and decide legislation via direct democracy

++++Corporatist - a political ideology which advocates the organization of society by corporate groups, such as agricultural, labour, military, business, scientific, or guild associations, on the basis of their common interests.

+++++Republican - a political ideology centered on citizenship in a state organized as a republic

++++++Fascist - a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

I know, I know that is a LOT to take in, but these are the 1st definitions I can pull off the internet.

Let me try to make it more simple (based on my outlook)

+Communism - There is no private property, everyone’s benefits is the gain of the whole body above the individual.

++Socialism - There is many classes of people, but everyone is equal. The needs of the few will be helped by the many

+++Democrat - These people promote democracy, everyone regardless of anything should have 1 vote in expressing their interests.

++++Corporatist - These people promote an oligopoly. Limited number of entities (mainly those with money) should control the whole.

+++++Republican - These people promote a Republic, have the power and interest of the many be in the hands of a few representatives.

++++++Fascist - These people promote a leadership based on tribalism, and anyone that is not part of that tribe is ‘other’ and should be destroyed.

These are VERY brief statements on a few on this spectrum. There are a LOT more, and this list can go on for days. (Libertarian, Constitutionalism, Green, Fundamentalist, Birthday, etc….) I put these lists together to give highlights on the spectrum, and some of the most common.

I have constantly head about the evils of all, and when presented why, the arguments go to well they are [insert another spectrum here] and they don’t even make the case WHY. Has most of note communist-lead have been totalitarian and authoritarian, Yes, but the danger is in the totalitarian and more important the authoritarian. Insert a Corporatist in that slot, make a totalitarian authoritarian in that group, there will be as much evil as any other group.

Lets take it to extreme, a Far-Right Authoritarian Totalitarian Fascist — Breaking it down: they care only about profit even if many will suffer, they think the population as a whole have no freedoms and should obey authority, that authority is concentrated in a single person, and their will be done, and that person is a tribalist, what they consider their tribe is the most important, if not part of the tribe well….sorry.

For balance, lets take it to another extreme, a Far-Left Progressive Anarchist Communist — Breaking it down, they care the well-being of the people should come first, profit/money be secondary. They want the will of the people as a whole be the law, There is no centralized government and everyone works to better humanity as a whole, and everyone benefits from it.

Again, I say this again to place emphasis on this, there are a LOT more that can be placed in any spectrum, I can go on-and-on about anything in these spectrums, I only summarize it here in my opinion. My view can and will change over time based on new facts/evidence/receipts. If I am wrong please present me the receipts that describe that issue alone without crossing into another spectrum.

Part 2

Review:

FAR-Left…..Left…..Center-Left…..Centrist…..Center-Right…..Right…..FAR-Right

Left- People more important than Profit

Right - Profit more important than People

This next one is one that is highly confused with others. People are told to fear something, and when try to describe it, they end up describing something else, especially on this spectrum, so this is best described in this order. To be clear, I will define each one by one† with their noun that popes up immediately, and go in more detail later.

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Progressivism…Liberalism…NeoLiberalism…Conservatism…Authoritarianism

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+Progressivism - support for or advocacy of social reform, more responsive to popular economic, social, and political demands

++Liberalism - a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise

+++NeoLiberalism - an advocate or supporter of free-market capitalism, deregulation, and reduction in government spending, in order to increase the role of the private sector

++++Conservatism - the aesthetic, cultural, social, and political outlook that embodies the desire to conserve existing things, held to be either good in themselves, or better than the likely alternatives, or at least safe, familiar, and the objects of trust and affection

+++++Authoritarianism - a form of government characterized by the rejection of political plurality, the use of a strong central power to preserve the political status quo, and reductions in the rule of law, separation of powers, and democratic voting.

Are there more, ABSOLUTELY. I am trying to place highlights here like a 1-10 spectrum. Some may read the definition, and realize they thought they were X, and realize they are NOT, that they are actually Y.

Semantics is funny, we associate blue as to the sky, but it is only blue due to Rayleigh scattering in the atmosphere, it is actually black.

Some of these can be applied to different areas, one may claim one on a social spectrum, another on political, another on economic, etc…….

Let me get to a more simplistic, this is based on my outlook, I may be wrong and if shown logically with proof, I can admit I am wrong, but if one wishes to point out, narrow it down to just that area, and go ad nauseam that it can not be confused with anything else

+Progressivism - an idea to progress and change/adapt to what the MAJORITY of the population wants.

++Liberalism - emphasized the right of the individual to make decisions, even if the results dismayed their neighbors or injured themselves.

+++NeoLiberalism - a society that emphasize market relations, re-tasking the role of the state, and individual responsibility, The main force is competitive markets into all areas of life, including the economy, politics and society.

++++Conservatism - adverse to change or innovation and holding traditional values, favoring free enterprise, private ownership, and socially traditional ideas

+++++Authoritarianism - the enforcement or advocacy of strict obedience to authority at the expense of personal freedom.

If you look up any progressive idea, it has been in the hopes of bettering everyone as a whole, just try and take away any of those programs, they are widely popular and loved.

Liberals are a funny thing, they want freedom, freedom to do just about everything. If you want to drive on the wrong side of a freeway, well-that is your freedom.

Neo-Liberals are a more recent, but they focus on market above all else. Is this good or bad, what does the market say, will I get more of something or lose something.

Conservatism just don’t want to change. The past is great, we should not change

Authoritarian wants no-one to have any freedom, they will tell you what you can and can not do, and ‘respect their authority’

The reason this is #2 on the list of topics, is that you can place Right-Wing and Left-Wing on top of any of these. Some are more common, but no combination is impossible. There are Right-Wing Liberalism, there is Center-Left Conservatism, there is FAR-Left Authoritarianism. It boils down to do they serve people or money.

Progressivism is hard to place on this scale, I put it here because it is the opposite of Authoritarianism. Progressive could go both ways, if the people as a WHOLE want something bad, then the will of the people is what goes. The majority of people are good, and if not manipulated, people want progress to get everyone to a better place…

Liberalism is an oddity, people should have all the freedom possible, but if too much; left as an individual will revert to ‘default mode’ and think that they are the most important, and it will show….

Conservatism does not want change, to take it to an extreme to illustrate a point, in the Declaration of Independence to quote: ”merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions”. Worse is in the US Constitution—Article 1—§2—Clause 3. Conservatism would think that is good because it is in the past, and the past should not change….

The most dangerous is the Authoritarian, this is most confusingly described as the ‘evil’ most people put on anything. This is the one where the rule of the people is ignored, freedom is only for those in authority. When describing the bad of something, are you describing the thing, or Authoritarianism ?????

†=Used Apple Notes to type this up, and used the ‘look up’ feature and copy/paste the noun that appears that fits.

Part 3

Review:

FAR-Left…..Left…..Center-Left…..Centrist…..Center-Right…..Right…..FAR-Right

Left- People more important than Profit

Right - Profit more important than People

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Progressivism…Liberalism…NeoLiberalism…Conservatism…Authoritarianism

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+Progressivism - an idea to progress and change/adapt to what the MAJORITY of the population wants.

++Liberalism - emphasized the right of the individual to make decisions, even if the results dismayed their neighbors or injured themselves.

+++NeoLiberalism - a society that emphasize market relations, re-tasking the role of the state, and individual responsibility, The main force is competitive markets into all areas of life, including the economy, politics and society.

++++Conservatism - adverse to change or innovation and holding traditional values, favoring free enterprise, private ownership, and socially traditional ideas

+++++Authoritarianism - the enforcement or advocacy of strict obedience to authority at the expense of personal freedom.

As continuing down this winding road we now reach on outlook on how governments should be run. Most of this is self explanatory.

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Anarchism…Democracy…Republic…Monarchism…Oligarchy…Totalitarian

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+Anarchism - belief in the abolition of all government and the organization of society on a voluntary, cooperative basis without recourse to force or compulsion.

++Democracy - a system of government by the whole population decides on policy initiatives without legislative representatives as proxies

+++Republic - a state in which supreme power is held by the chosen representatives

++++Oligarchy - a small group of people having control of a country, organization, or institution.

+++++Monarchism - support for the principle of having monarchs. (a sovereign head of state, especially a king, queen, or emperor.)

++++++Totalitarianism - a system of government that is centralized and dictatorial and requires complete subservience to the state.

I am not going to go too much in depth here, just summarize….

+Anarchism - No government

++Democracy - Everyone has a voice, everyone has 1 vote.

+++Republic - Everyone has a representative, and those representative should be speaking for their representative peoples interests

++++Monarchism - Power is concentrated into the hands of one (possibly delegated), and that single person serve everyones interests.

+++++Oligarchy - Power is concentrated into the hands of a few, they do whatever they want, they don’t represent anyone other them selves.

++++++Totalitarian - Power is concentrated into the hands of one, they serve them selves.

Again, any combination CAN exist, it is not impossible, some are more likely to exist.

Let me give a example, if someone is a Right-wing, Neo-Liberal, that believes in Oligarchy, they serve money interest, makes decisions based on that the market decides, but thinks power should remain in the hands of the few (often those that give them money)